The Electric Vehicle (EV) thread Vol 9 - Xileno

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The Electric Vehicle (EV) thread Vol 9 - Ethan Edwards

Test drove a used MG4 yesterday. Trophy Long Range 64kwh battery 270m range.

Seriously impressive car, lively drive. Well equipped, comfy and quiet. Seriously considering it.

The Electric Vehicle (EV) thread Vol 9 - mcb100
What sort of mileage are you contemplating in the MG 4? I ask as they don’t have the reputation as the most reliable EV in the marketplace.
It’s not usually big stuff (battery/motor, etc), but bodywork and electrical ancillaries.
The Electric Vehicle (EV) thread Vol 9 - Ethan Edwards

Usual commute 75m round trip, occasional pop up to York. Used to do 20k a year pre Covid now 8k. My Mokka-e is handling this with aplomb. Pretty sure the longer legged MG4 will be fine.

The Electric Vehicle (EV) thread Vol 9 - SLO76
Despite my ongoing criticism of EV’s and the UK’s woeful public charging infrastructure, our 40kw Nissan Leaf has now been with us for coming up on a year. We’ve done 12,000 miles in “Leo” the Leaf without any faults at all, beyond the handbrake binding a bit on wet days when reversing, it immediately frees off when you move forward - apparently a known issue with the Leaf.

It’s a very relaxing car to drive and extremely cheap to run. It was bought right so depreciation isn’t crippling unlike most EV’s and it’s very practical. I agree with Auto Trader when they voted it best city car. It’s a perfect second car. I get two days of commuting plus a bit of running around for £2.50 via our home charger and low cost off-peak electricity overnight.

It’s hopeless as long distance transport but that’s more down to the poor state of our public charging network, the Leaf’s Betamax charging connector and the grotesque cost of using privately owned public chargers which at 75/85p p/kwh are dearer than filling up with petrol or diesel. The car itself can sit happily at motorway speeds for the typical two hours or so you’d travel before needing a wee toilet/snack stop which in theory can be tied in with a wee 30/40 min fast charge, but in practice we’ve found chargers are all too often busy, offline or blocked by m****s.

To show how much I do actually like the car we have both agreed that we will always have at least one electric car on our driveway.
Ford and evs - barney100

Apparently a top Ford exec has warned that they will cut the amount of ice cars they will sell in the UK. This is to avoid huge penalties for not meeting the governments demands on the percentage of EVs sold. The ice cars will be sold on other markets.

Ford and evs - SLO76
It’s legislation like this that’s driving up prices of conventional powered cars. EV’s aren’t getting cheaper, they’re just pricing us out of petrol and diesel alternatives by pushing them up to parity with hugely overpriced EV’s.
The Electric Vehicle (EV) thread Vol 9 - mcb100
Stand by for EV bargains towards the end of the year as manufacturers pre-register large numbers in order to hit the 22% target.
The Electric Vehicle (EV) thread Vol 9 - daveyjp

There are already bargains. Look at prices of pre reg Leaf with the smaller battery, £17k, if you are happy with a few thousand miles £12k for a 23 reg,

The Electric Vehicle (EV) thread Vol 9 - Terry W

First the carrot to pull in new EV owners - low tax etc.

Now the stick to beat aspiring ICE buyers - quotas and fines

For some this could be a win-win:

  • the trade in value of ICE will increase partly reflecting the increased cost of new ICE cars demanded by those who can't or won't embrace electric
  • the price of my shiny new EV will continue to fall as manufacturers (a) need to hit sales targets and avoid fines, and (b) costs of production are anyway falling

We could arrive at the somewhat bizarre situation where a new EV is cheaper than a (say) 2 year old similar ICE. Trade in your old ICE and get a brand new EV + some folding.